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ctviolin Super Member
Joined: 07 May 2009 Posts: 961 Location: Roswell
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:49 am Post subject: Re: Making a 6ft long bow...help! |
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saralynn wrote: |
Hello!
Please any advice would be much appreciated! Thank you!
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Yeah, I'll bite - Definately, I do not know, but I WAS thinking...
sorry, it's probably not possible - but I have always considered the use of a very carefully manicured strip of leather for an experiment like this...
Smooth and finished side facing up (or outwards), it may well hold an adequate coating of rosin - on a face that is actually as lightly (roughly) non-uniform as a strip of hairs or strings might be.
it and may also be possible (?) to obtain a single 6' long straight & narrrow strip. I just don't know.
Would have to ask some leather guys & get some opinions. But, I'd be willing to bet someone could be found to supply such an item (if possible) out of sheer curiosity.
Getting a strip to sit correctly, under a standard bow tension, might well be the big glitch here - with trying to use it. But with attention paid to stretching, wetting, and pressing the strip flat - it might be possible. (Plus of course, making a bow with very much tension (or spring), might initially be called for?)
I've got a ton of (much shorter) leather atound here, and some 1/8 bows... Perhaps it wouldn't be that difficult to see how it works generally at that level?
just thinking out loud.
If you do make one - you HAVE to post a picture and description of your results. Why? Inquiring minds want to know is all. _________________ Look,
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Will L Junior Member
Joined: 06 Mar 2011 Posts: 22
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding using nylon for the hair, a friend of mine definitely used something like that years ago. Unfortunately he is deceased so I can't ask him exactly, but I recall he said it was nylon fishing line. I know it worked just fine and he used regular rosin. I would think your experimentation would involve finding out what diameter would work best, and if you need to rough it up.
At the very least you could have something that looks close to horse hair, and you'd have solved the length problem. |
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saralynn Junior Member
Joined: 16 May 2013 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Leather, that's an interesting idea... I am going to stick with the nylon for now and see how it goes. I will be testing it on Friday! |
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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There is no doubt that you will need to roughen the monofilament line. But you may try doing the roughening en mass after the bow is haired ... it will likely work and save a lot of time for you rather than roughening each nylon "hair" at a time... experimentation is the key!
Good luck... Mat |
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Making a 6ft long bow...help! |
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saralynn wrote: | ....(i already contacted manufacturers) .... |
Have you considered contacting them again and asking what guage of nylon they use and if and how they treat the surface of the filament so that rosin sticks?
Cheers, Mat |
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saralynn Junior Member
Joined: 16 May 2013 Posts: 8
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:34 am Post subject: *UPDATE* |
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Hello everyone!
Exciting news!!! It works!!! Made of spruce and nylon thread (roughed a lil with 400 grit sandpaper). Here is a video of a lil experimenting i did!
(Hope this loads, still converting i think)
https://vimeo.com/67378454
Thank you for all the help![/url] |
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ctviolin Super Member
Joined: 07 May 2009 Posts: 961 Location: Roswell
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:20 am Post subject: Re: *UPDATE* |
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saralynn wrote: |
Hello everyone!
Exciting news!!! It works!!! Made of spruce and nylon thread (roughed a lil with 400 grit sandpaper). Here is a video of a lil experimenting i did!
Thank you for all the help!
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Saralynn,
This is so freeking cool!
I love to see young human beings (well, or old - anyone really!) step outside the 'normal or routine' and succeed at or with their quest. (whatever it may be)
It always makes me feel that creativity isn't really dead (despite the current rumors) and, well, just congrats!
Well done!
- and thank you so much for posting your progress thus far!
(somebody better get to practicing, now that the 6 ft. bow exists!)
ct _________________ Look,
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: *UPDATE* |
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saralynn wrote: | Hello everyone!
Exciting news!!! It works!!! Made of spruce and nylon thread (roughed a lil with 400 grit sandpaper). Here is a video of a lil experimenting i did!
(Hope this loads, still converting i think)
https://vimeo.com/67378454
Thank you for all the help![/url] |
Well done Saralynn! ...Five stars at least! I'm curious to see how you designed the frog and the anchoring and tensioning method... can u post a few close up pics of the head and frog of the bow? ... Cheers, Mat |
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saralynn Junior Member
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: |
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saralynn wrote: | ..... But overall i'm pretty happy with it.
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You have been pretty imaginative with making it work. Nice job & Congratulations!
I am amazed how evenly the hair is tensioned... With knotting the hair as you have done, as opposed to tying a traditional knot, I would have expected much greater uneveness with the hair tension.
You just may have the start of a new bow design!
Wishing you all the best in your studies and career!... Mat |
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Ed Shillitoe Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 110 Location: Syracuse NY
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I can't believe this! I really didn't think it would work.
Congratulations! When is your first concert? |
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