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violins in MA Junior Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2015 Posts: 7 Location: Haverhill, MA
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:12 pm Post subject: baby bottle warmer |
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I recall somewhere it said a baby bottle warmer is good for melting hide glue. Anybody have any experience with one? (I can get one cheap) |
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Don't know about bottle warmer , but here is what I use...
http://www.amazon.com/Proctor-Silex-32oz-Hot-pot/dp/B004YTW58S
I then drilled an appropriate size hole and installed a meat thermometer thru the lid to monitor temp accurately... key is don't exceed 140deg F
For small amounts of glue I set a heavy glass tea light/candle holder available at dollar stores (about a 4 oz size) into the water and melt about 1 tsp of granular glue in it. Dilute the granules 2:1 by weight ( 2 parts water:1 part granules)
here is a good site on using hide glue: http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Data/Materials/hideglue.html
Good luck!... Mat |
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ollieken Super Member
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 281 Location: New Brunswick Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:56 pm Post subject: Mat |
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Mat I use the small jars you get at the dollar store it has a
lid with a seal & clamp if I have any amount left I put it in the freezer
Just don't put the jar in the hot water when frozen let it thaw out first .
Wishing you all a Healthy Prosperous new year Ken |
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L P Reedy Super Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 276 Location: Brevard, NC
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen bottle warmers recommended many times but have been unable to find one except online. These days I use a small microwave almost exclusively. Takes a little experience but then it is fast and convenient. And it will warm coffee, too.
Another thing that I've used in the past was a potpourri pot. Some of them work well and others don't get hot enough. I would grab the bottle warmer. |
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Chet Bishop Super Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 678 Location: Forest Grove, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I use a potpourri warmer I picked up at a good will store for $3. That and a discarded yeast-jar. I used the first jar for about twelve years, until the lid rusted out, then got another, identical jar, when another yeast jar went empty. Potpurri warmer has worked faithfully for 16 years now. _________________ Chet Bishop
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violins in MA Junior Member
Joined: 28 Dec 2015 Posts: 7 Location: Haverhill, MA
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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L P Reedy wrote: | I've seen bottle warmers recommended many times but have been unable to find one except online. These days I use a small microwave almost exclusively. Takes a little experience but then it is fast and convenient. And it will warm coffee, too.
Another thing that I've used in the past was a potpourri pot. Some of them work well and others don't get hot enough. I would grab the bottle warmer. |
Yeah I did get it, it's like a baby bottle steamer, with a water reservoir. I may dismantle it and put an unused dimmer on it and bypass the electronic timer &c. I hate that electronic stuff you get dependent on it and then it just breaks.. |
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Mat |
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ollieken wrote: | Mat I use the small jars you get at the dollar store it has a
lid with a seal & clamp if I have any amount left I put it in the freezer
Just don't put the jar in the hot water when frozen let it thaw out first .
Wishing you all a Healthy Prosperous new year Ken |
Ken, I like the small jar with lid idea.... I don't use glue every day, not even every week sometime... so any left over glue gets chucked. With the small jars that won't be a problem.
Cheers... Mat |
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ollieken Super Member
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 281 Location: New Brunswick Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:49 am Post subject: Glue |
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Mat I think I the idea came from a post on freezing glue from
Michael Darnton a long time ago
I think the Idea is so Bacteria cant get started
Works for me ken |
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Joseph Leahy Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 98 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: baby bottle warmer |
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I picked up two baby bottle warmers at the used discount store for $3 each a while ago. I used a small bottle to hold the glue but am now using small yogurt containers. This setup works great.
I have used the Hot Pot similar to what Mat mentioned and various other methods but the baby bottle warmer seems to be the easiest to setup and maintain the temp.
Joe |
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Dave Chandler Super Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Mt Mitchell in North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:24 am Post subject: |
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I like my glue at 135-140. I have an old sauce pan on a hot plate, throw in some water, then a small pyrex desert bowl, about 4" across, a teaspoon of dry glue, water to suit. I find that when the water in the pan starts to boil, my glue is at the temp I like. Wait too long it gets a skim on it. I also save those little cat food tins, then I can just throw the whole thing out when finished. I seldom save glue, its cheap, goes bad. With all the effort you put into making a violin, why cut corners on glue?
For me, I'd be surprised a baby bottle warmer would get hot enough, but a baby bottle sanitizer might do the trick. _________________ Dave in the Blue Ridge
Southern Violin Association
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Joseph Leahy Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 98 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Dave Chandler wrote: | For me, I'd be surprised a baby bottle warmer would get hot enough, but a baby bottle sanitizer might do the trick. |
Hi Dave
The products I have are made of plastic and are baby bottle warmers, not sanitizers. They have a dial to control the temp. Turned up, the water can get very hot, at least well over 160F. I can't turn them up all the way or the glue will get too hot in the container. They hold a constant temp and work great for me.
Joe |
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Dave Chandler Super Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Mt Mitchell in North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Joseph Leahy wrote: | The products I have are made of plastic and are baby bottle warmers, not sanitizers. They have a dial to control the temp. Turned up, the water can get very hot, at least well over 160F. I can't turn them up all the way or the glue will get too hot in the container. They hold a constant temp and work great for me.
Joe |
That sounds like it would do the trick. But again, 160 is scalding, I'm surprised it would get to that temperature. _________________ Dave in the Blue Ridge
Southern Violin Association
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next with no loss of enthusiasm" Winston Churchill
"I took the road less travelled, and now I don't know where I am." Marco Polo |
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L P Reedy Super Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 276 Location: Brevard, NC
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Dave, that will heat the BOTTLE much quicker to the desired temperature. If the warmer only gets to 100ยบ it will take forever to heat the bottle. |
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Dave Chandler Super Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Mt Mitchell in North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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I grew up in a family of 6 kids, don't remember anything about bottle warmers. I remember glass bottles, boiled on the stove. Milk warmed in a sauce pan. ( and outhouses, yada, yada). _________________ Dave in the Blue Ridge
Southern Violin Association
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next with no loss of enthusiasm" Winston Churchill
"I took the road less travelled, and now I don't know where I am." Marco Polo |
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L P Reedy Super Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 276 Location: Brevard, NC
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Right, Dave, me too. Never heard of a bottle warmer, even when we had our kids, until I got on the internet. Most stores have stopped selling them new, probably because they get hot. They sound kind of neat, but with all my other options I certainly don't need one. |
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