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kubasa
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:14 pm    Post subject: Japanese planing Reply with quote

I was watching a number of Japanese woodworking videos today and noticed that many of the guys were pulling the plane instead of pushing the plane so basically their bodies and arms were leading and instead of following. I found it rather interesting. Anyone on here do their planing this way? I was amazed at their planing skills. Are there any advantages of pulling the plane instead of pushing it?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its the same with sawing, I see an advantage to pulling the saw, but have done little pulling of the plane, but I have on some occasions.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday I planed down a neck block. I tried pulling the plane like I had seen in the Japanese wood working videos. I can't say that I saw or felt any difference from what I normally do. If anything I guess I had more control over the front of the plane but that's about it. My wife shakes her head at what I call my 3 year old syndrome - "always asking why".
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kubasa,

The answer to that (of course) is "Why???"
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And growing up, my Dad's common answer was "why not?" Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a few dozen japanese planes, from the regular bench planes to the specialized joinery types. They are very interesting and very fun to play with. each plane has its own quirks that you need to be well aware of. However, I would need a lot more practice to use them as part of a project. I have a feeling that having too many japanese planes is counterproductive as it prevents you from getting an intimate feel for any one of them.

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Mat Roop
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched this on on the planing competition.... amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Ad6tBdLbM
Question is... what kind of wood are they planing? I am sure the results will vary significantly with different woods.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am told it's similar to yellow cedar, if not yellow cedar itself.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wm_crash - maybe you need one of these for the workshop for planing blocks and plate backs? Again, an amazing tool from Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plByNDFwlOk
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet the knife is a joy to sharpen. I think I saw the grinding fixture needed at some point and it's massive.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and then there is this one....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttEUGKQXtQs&feature=youtu.be
Explains the relationship of the depth of cut vs cap angle vs cap distance.
... not what I expected, but then on second thought makes sense when you see it happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting video Mat. I enjoyed watching that and actually seeing what happens.
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