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Carving a scroll - step by step - or almost!!!
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MANFIO
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still will have to make some refinishing on my scroll but now I'll work on the neck. Here I worked with an aggressive rasp till the final thickness of the neck, 18.5 and 20, I'll remove the wood betwen these points:



You may have the impression that my workshop is a mess, there is a good quote by Oscal Wilde about first impressions:

Here I wrapped a coarse sandpaper in a round chisel handle to work in this region:


Here I'm cutting the neck root with my Japanese saw:


Working in the neck with a rasp:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Thanks!! Reply with quote

Hi Manfio,
I just want to thank you for showing your professioal work. Not only are you putting alot of effort into this scroll, but it's also alot of work to take pictures step by step, load the picturers, file the pictures and load them to this site, and discribe it all.

I've learned alot from reading it all and seeing the pictures. Your very good at discribing them. Not to mention making that scroll. I knew they are carved by hand but I didn't know all the details. Shocked

So Thanks for all your hard work. I can't wait to see the end results!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!

Now I will shape the neck and fingerboard. I'll divide the side of the fingerboard in 3 parts:


First I'll round the two external thirds, preserving the central one that will correspond to the widest part of the neck:




Here a straight edge over the side of the fingerboard showing the central third as the wides part of the fingerboard:




On the part of the fingerboard that is not glued to the neck just the upper third will be rounded:


Here a shaped scraper is used for finishing the inside hollowing of the fingerboard:


I use my thumb's nail to guide me shaping this area (here not finished yet):

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to comment with great appreciation, Manfio, on all your work and special thanks for this edition. Hope you can do more in the future.

Love your use of the thumbnail as a template. I can't keep from chewing mine.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



This is the front view of the pegbox near the nut. Notice that just the outer side of the pegbox walls are chamfered, the inner parts remain not chamfered. The "floor" of the pegbox is finished with a chisel used as a scraper.


While working in the the neck, take care to avoid ebony dust reaching the maple because it will stain the maple, mainly if you are using sandpaper.






And finally, here the photo of the real McCoy and my new scroll:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manfio:

I would be thrilled if you could one day do a series like this with pictures of your varnishing process, illustrated from tanning, fuming, staining, ground, color varnish to polish...

Best regards,
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="MANFIO"]I'll quote again the Maestro Carlo Vettori:


quote]

I met the Vettori family in Frankfurt a few years ago.
Very nice people!
I have the poster of the old man working outside with one of his ofspring sitting on the ground chewing on what apears to be a form of glued table...
Guess it is all in the upbringing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Carlo Vettori is quite a fine man and liutaio.

A varnish tutorial would be much more difficult because many things can change in the middle of process due to differences in colour, absortion of the ground, etc. Althought my process has a main idea (that I have already exposed here) the varnishing process is a much more dynamic one.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to add - I find it best to drill the peg holes (.22 inch) first before even cutting out the outline from the neck block. This ensures the holes are straight and square to the center line and are useful later when cutting the pegbox to depth.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but I don't have a collunn driller... my workshop is rather Franciscan...

Well, I varnished the viola and my violist/photographer friend Andrès Lepage took some pics of the varnished scroll featured in this tutorial:








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