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BAM
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject: Violin wear pattern Reply with quote

We have an old family violin from the late 1800s and we know nothing about our ancestor or his playing. There is a plate on the violin that states it was given "in token of esteem" from a town in Poland. We believe our ancestor came from Scotland, so our ancestor may have been a fiddler or a classical violinist. The violin shows heavy signs of use and we wonder if the wear pattern might indicate whether our ancestor was a fiddler or a violinist. Can anyone help?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone is qualified to make a distinction like that, if one is even possible.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason it may not be possible is that wear patterns are very often faked, sometimes well and sometimes not so well.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack London wrote:
The reason it may not be possible is that wear patterns are very often faked, sometimes well and sometimes not so well.

There's no really clear-cut distinction between wear from playing fiddle or classical style, either. I suppose if the end-button and around the endblock area was worn in, it would indicate often playing the rare fiddle style of bracing the end of the violin against the chest/bicep, but I can't think of anything else.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only difference I could think about is the amount of rosin left on the top of the violin....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack H. wrote:
The only difference I could think about is the amount of rosin left on the top of the violin....

An irresponsible classicist blowing through caprices all day could do the same thing, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you still have the old bridge... its shape might be a good clue.
A fiddler likes a lower and flatter bridge.
If the top of the bridge is close to the shape of the arc of a 48 mm radius circle, then likely a fiddler. If arc is close to 42 mm likely classical. Old strings might be a clue also.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A violinist playing a lot in higher positions would generate more wear on the edges, rib and top of the right upper bout than MOST fiddlers. But that's not definitive.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L P Reedy wrote:
A violinist playing a lot in higher positions would generate more wear on the edges, rib and top of the right upper bout than MOST fiddlers. But that's not definitive.


Good point... So that should show up also on fingerboard wear...
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