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ghammond Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 42
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:31 am Post subject: Sacconi book |
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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone here owns the Sacconi book "The Secrets of Stradivari". If so, do you consider it a worthwhile effort to hunt down a copy? It seems as though it's quite pricey and out-of-print in most places, but I could probably get a copy (if there's a will, there's a way), but I just wanted to make sure that it's worth the time/effort. What kind of information does it cover?
I was interested in getting it because I was looking over a website about plate tuning and it mentioned the book.
Thanks,
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Michael Darnton Moderator
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 1281 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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It's a great book for learning to see violins, what to look for, and for the details of Strads in particular. It is not a book about making, per se. I think it's worth owning; I read my copy until it fell apart, and still refer to it, but it depends how geeky your mindset is. _________________ new blog at my site! http://darntonviolins.com/blog
my work sites: http://darntonviolins.com and http://darntonhersh.com |
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Benedict White Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Useful review Michael. |
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ghammond Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Mike! Sounds like it's a worthwhile hunt to try to find a copy. |
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Jack H. Super Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Location: Israel
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have one in Italian for sale...
as for the book itself. it is handy for learning about strads and how strad graduated his instruments, every piece of wood has to be taken individually in my humble opinion. |
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ghammond Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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3 hours worth of photocopying and one really miffed librarian, but I got it! |
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Benedict White Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:47 am Post subject: |
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That is not something that would count as "fair use" so you should not do it!*
*If you are going to do it anyway you should not brag about it... |
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famuswood Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I would also love to get a copy should anyone get wind of availability!
Thanks. _________________ I love the feel of wood in my hands - the smell of fresh cut lumber and the challenge of a difficult woodworking project on a sunny day . . . |
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Mat Roop Senior Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 911 Location: Wyoming Ontario
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Chad48309 Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Benedict White wrote: | That is not something that would count as "fair use" so you should not do it!*
*If you are going to do it anyway you should not brag about it... |
First of all, Sacconi is dead and any profits for this book that could go to anyone would go to some member of his family that didn't lift a finger to produce the original work. Second, the book costs an astronomical amount and is out of print. Without redistribution, whether legal or illegal, the information will continue to fade away until it is entirely unobtainable by any interested party, and then that information is lost. Regardless of what publishers may think, piracy promotes the archiving of information so that it may continue to be present for all time. I consider that far more noble than lining the pockets of those who have little to no involvement in the process involved in creating the original work.
I hope that doesn't sound argumentative. I'm just trying to make a point. How on earth are we supposed to learn from sources when they continue to become increasingly unobtainable? _________________ -C.S. |
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famuswood Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Mat. I appreciate the info. Looks like it may be quite tough to find. _________________ I love the feel of wood in my hands - the smell of fresh cut lumber and the challenge of a difficult woodworking project on a sunny day . . . |
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Benedict White Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Chad48309 wrote: | Benedict White wrote: | That is not something that would count as "fair use" so you should not do it!*
*If you are going to do it anyway you should not brag about it... |
First of all, Sacconi is dead and any profits for this book that could go to anyone would go to some member of his family that didn't lift a finger to produce the original work. Second, the book costs an astronomical amount and is out of print. Without redistribution, whether legal or illegal, the information will continue to fade away until it is entirely unobtainable by any interested party, and then that information is lost. Regardless of what publishers may think, piracy promotes the archiving of information so that it may continue to be present for all time. I consider that far more noble than lining the pockets of those who have little to no involvement in the process involved in creating the original work.
I hope that doesn't sound argumentative. I'm just trying to make a point. How on earth are we supposed to learn from sources when they continue to become increasingly unobtainable? |
And where exactly does what I say disagree with that?
Just out of interest, when was it published? It may well actually be out of copyright and could be a project for the Gutenberg project.... |
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Chad48309 Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Benedict White wrote: | Chad48309 wrote: | Benedict White wrote: | That is not something that would count as "fair use" so you should not do it!*
*If you are going to do it anyway you should not brag about it... |
First of all, Sacconi is dead and any profits for this book that could go to anyone would go to some member of his family that didn't lift a finger to produce the original work. Second, the book costs an astronomical amount and is out of print. Without redistribution, whether legal or illegal, the information will continue to fade away until it is entirely unobtainable by any interested party, and then that information is lost. Regardless of what publishers may think, piracy promotes the archiving of information so that it may continue to be present for all time. I consider that far more noble than lining the pockets of those who have little to no involvement in the process involved in creating the original work.
I hope that doesn't sound argumentative. I'm just trying to make a point. How on earth are we supposed to learn from sources when they continue to become increasingly unobtainable? |
And where exactly does what I say disagree with that?
Just out of interest, when was it published? It may well actually be out of copyright and could be a project for the Gutenberg project.... |
Published in 1979. No way Gutenberg would touch that. _________________ -C.S. |
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ghammond Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 42
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
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While on the topic of books, I just received "Antonio Stradivari - His Life & Work" by the Hill brothers. I'm sure most of you experienced luthiers already own this book, but for those of you who are new (like me) this is a very good and informative book on Stradivari's life, work and personal artistic style. The prose in this book are precise and clear which makes for an enjoyable read. |
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Benedict White Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, Chad, I see.
Well, I fall back on the the maxim don't brag about it then |
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