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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Various homemade violin-making tools Reply with quote

Just thought I'd post a couple of simple homemade tools that make the job quick and easy (and more accurate) - these two are for purfling, but please, add any of your own that might help the members here when building...

These just happen to be about purfling because that's what I'm doing right now, but I'd kinda like to start a thread about ANY homemade tools/jigs that people might use.

Cool?


By the way, the blur here is a chisel, which I use for shaving the purfling to whatever profile the tip requires for the corner join. (notice it has already been bent on the hair curler... which was about $10, and which heats up in about - oh, say, ten seconds) After the tight curl is formed and the join is correct - it only requires very little further bending, and in fact, with this cheap fiber purfling, it very often will simply bend around the large curve of the bout with no further heat bending.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the cutting post. Good thought--I have always struggled with the bent purfling, and sometimes snapped it (the wooden variety) by snagging it on something while trying to manipulate it into position for cutting.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great thread ct, I really like the hair curler idea, I use the bending irons , but that looks faster by far! thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kjb wrote:
great thread ct, I really like the hair curler idea, I use the bending irons , but that looks faster by far! thanks.


Yeah kjb, I've got a "proper" bending iron too, but it takes forever to heat up and cool down, and is a bit clumsy for the purfling...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't they make a movie about that perticular brand of curling iron?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Bishop wrote:
I like the cutting post. Good thought--I have always struggled with the bent purfling, and sometimes snapped it (the wooden variety) by snagging it on something while trying to manipulate it into position for cutting.


Yeah - the same with the fiber stuff.

So, tell me Chet, I've decided start using wooden purfling also, from now on. Simply because I know it is considered a much better quality product, and I believe I can fairly easily imagine why it would result in a better, or more even quality job. (Ok, so I've been a cheap-skate up till now)

Where do YOU buy it? Or, do you think it matters?

Or, do you think the wooden stuff bought from the regular bulk suppliers (the catalog dealers and such) is good enough.

One of my real concerns is with regularity or consistency - very often this cheap fiber stuff is slightly different in the band widths & etc., and from now on, I'm looking for purfling that matches itself EXACTLY - color and width wise...

I'm sort of curious about this, if it's even a concern, since I've never bought any of the wooden purfling yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easy to forget, but this is a commercially sponsored forum...

https://www.violins.ca/supplies/posts_bars_purfling.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good point!!

I have gotten it from three different places and they seemed to be fairly consistent , where they get if from ... china???
so I think I will go with lemuels European next time around.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Bishop wrote:
Didn't they make a movie about that perticular brand of curling iron?


If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Bruce Willis bending purfling - when he caused it to split, sending splinters into the group of hijackers?

Or was that a different movie?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kjb wrote:
good point!!

I have gotten it from three different places and they seemed to be fairly consistent , where they get if from ... china???
so I think I will go with lemuels European next time around.


Excellent point kjb,

Lemuel provides us with this forum, and has an excellent and helpful personality on-line...

Hmmm,

Why didn't I think of this? Ahh - who knows?
But the fact is that You''re right,
Lemuel it is! - and "European" sounds about right too. I believe you've talked me into it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the curling iron idea. We just sold our bending iron as we are moving to UK, different electrical system there. I think we will be buying a curling iron and using that.

Please keep going with sharing home made jigs, they are the best and cheapest way of solving issues.

The only jigs we have are what other people have shown us. Simple, but do the job.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting how purfling definitions differ. I used to get great fiber from Int. Luthiers Supply, then tried Int. Violin's fiber. It was junk, so I switched to their wood, which I heard somewhere is made by Karin Rost. I didn't like the "German" style and switched to "Italian," which works OK. I assume Lemuel's is good, but seems to be thicker than I want and the blacks thinner.

And I use too many home made tools to list.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my version of Michael Darnton's purfling setup. Works great!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikes wrote:

Here's my version of Michael Darnton's purfling setup. Works great!


sweet!

I never have been a fan of the hand cut purfling groove, though I used to have to do it...

gimme a POWER TOOL!
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