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Spiccato vs. staccato

 
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riffwraith
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:58 pm    Post subject: Spiccato vs. staccato Reply with quote

Hi all Smile

I am having a convo with a fellow composer on another forum. Neither of us plays the violin, so I was hoping someone can set the record straight.

My understanding of spiccato/staccato is that the former is a lighter "touch", where you are allowing the bow to bounce more, whereas the latter is a more deliberate stroke, where the notes are a bit longer in length. Please correct me if I am wrong here.

Furthermore, and in terms of notation, my understanding here is that stac gets a dot above/below the notehead, whereas with spic, you have the dot and you mark "spic" above the staff. This of course, knowing that after a certain tempo, stac becomes literally impossible.

Thanks in advance.
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Xelebes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never come across the term but it appears to be a double-speed staccato. Staccato results in a half-beat stroke and spiccato results in a quarter-beat stroke, so to speak. To play it is go at it lightly while staccato has some drag on the hairs.

The notation of the spiccato is the downward triangle. If you can't set the triangle, then what you propose would suffice, I suppose. As I said, in the music I use I don't see it marked down.

Fellow composer on another forum: GuitarsCanada? Smile
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Joseph Leahy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Spiccato vs. staccato Reply with quote

riffwraith wrote:
Hi all Smile

... spiccato/staccato...


You can see videos showing examples of each in action with an explanation here.
http://www.violinmasterclass.com/en/masterclasses/right-hand/spiccato
http://www.violinmasterclass.com/en/masterclasses/right-hand/staccato

Joe
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JG
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Staccato is the general musical effect of short detached notes. Violinists can achieve this effect in various ways: short detached strokes on the string, detached strokes off the string ('spiccato'), martelé strokes, and slurred runs of separated notes. (This last is the very limited sense in which Mr. Sassmanshaus uses the word staccato in the video.) Each technique produces a slightly different staccato effect.

Outside of violin instruction books, normally it's conductors, section leaders, and soloists who decide which technique works best in a given passage. The composer can just put dots and leave the rest to the players.
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riffwraith
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies Smile

Xelebes wrote:

Fellow composer on another forum: GuitarsCanada? Smile


No, gearslutz Smile

Cheers.
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