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Rick M Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2016 Posts: 65 Location: Okotoks, AB, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:56 pm Post subject: Water Stains on new wood. Any fix? |
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I picked up this for a back (violin #1) a few months ago. The previous post promoted this one.
The stains that I've circled are water stains. I bought the block knowing what I was getting because I was looking for "beginner" wood. The discussion on cleaning up cracks got me wondering if a brush with peroxide or something might make the staining less noticeable (after carving)?
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Dave Chandler Super Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Mt Mitchell in North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I don't think you have a problem till you've got to final surface, by then it may be gone. Even so, it will likely blend in. Now's the time to find out, since you've not started carving on it, try just scraping the surface down a bit and go through your varnish routine and see how it comes out. _________________ Dave in the Blue Ridge
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Dave Chandler Super Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I see you'Re from Okotoks, I used to buy wood from "Grandpas Workshop" there. Dan, or Don Barnes? _________________ Dave in the Blue Ridge
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Rick M Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2016 Posts: 65 Location: Okotoks, AB, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Dave, I actually agree, but this community seems to be able to work magic with wood and finishes, so I was curious.
You're right it was Grandpas Workshop. Don isn't around anymore but it's being run by a great young guy, Tyler Langdon. He has a nice little luthier operation going as well as the tone wood business. |
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Michael Darnton Moderator
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Chet Bishop Super Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:49 am Post subject: |
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My expectation would be that it is not much more than surface-deep. I'm pretty sure it will be long gone by the time you get to the completed back. _________________ Chet Bishop
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Rick M Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2016 Posts: 65 Location: Okotoks, AB, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thought I'd post an update on this one.
Once I got the underside flattened, it became pretty clear that the stains went all the way through. And working on the arching just confirms it.
I did try the peroxide (on a scrap end) and Michael was correct, not much happened.
So, now it is just part of the character of the instrument.
Just an aside on water damage. This was damaged in the flooding we had here in 2013. Our home was untouched, but the city my kids live in had to be evacuated for 2 weeks. The city (High River) is still working on repairs to infrastructure and the community is still getting over the whole ordeal.
Lots of thoughts and good wishes to all the folks in Texas, Florida and the Caribbean - their trials are only beginning. |
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Chet Bishop Super Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:12 am Post subject: |
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I remember that flood. You folks had some serious threats, there! My wife's parents were there during that time, on some sort of special train-trip, and were nearly stranded there, but got through unscathed. _________________ Chet Bishop
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Michael Darnton Moderator
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catnip Junior Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:41 am Post subject: |
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What strength peroxide did you use? 3% h. peroxide from the pharmacy will not do anything to wood but if you use industrial 30% h. peroxide (from chemical supplier) and expose the wood to direct sunlight you will see considerable improvement. |
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Michael Darnton Moderator
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Rick M Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. that would explain a bit for sure. A bit like American beer vs. Navy Rum!
I have to confess, I paid so little attention I had to go dig out the bottle. Sure enough 3%USP. Thanks for pointing that out guys, I may have to give it another try - to satisfy my curiosity. I'm with you Michael. I going to finish it as is. |
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