Violin Forum/Message Board

Jack H. · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: Looking for aluminum frames

for violin and cello.
Any one know where to get one?

Tried google and will continue with different word combos but I thought I might ask also.

Thanks,
Jack

MANFIO · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject:

Are you referring to molds? I make mine with solid wood. In general makers will prefer making their own molds.
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Jack H. · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject:

no, not a mold, a clamping frame for clamping the instrument when fitting a bass bar.
I have some from some thick plywood, but a certain cello top from Mirecourt, not the cello with the neck affliction, is filled with tension and needs to get flattened to fit a bess bar propperly. there is so much tension in the top ( with out a bass bar) that is it bending the 18 mm plywood clamping frame, so I am looking for an aluminum one.

and now, the same post translated into Italian ( most likely rather poorly)
by http://www.freetranslation.com/

Let me know how bad it was Lu Man Fu, ok?

Non no, una forma, un che la stringendo cornice per stringere lo strumento quando andare bene una sbarra di basso. Non ho alcuni da alcuno legno compensato spesso, ma una certa cima di violoncello da Mirecourt, il violoncello con l'afflizione di collo, è riempita di la tensione ed i bisogni di essere appiattiti per andare bene un propperly di sbarra di bess. c'è così molta tensione nella cima (con fuori da una sbarra di basso) ciò l'è piegando il 18 legno compensato di millimetro stringe la cornice, dunque cerco un alluminio un.

do you use a frame to fit the bass bar?
Jack

Michael Darnton · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject:

I have an aluminum violin frame that was a specially-made thing. I've never seen one for cello, though--only plywood for that.

Jack H. · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:38 am Post subject:

I found one for violin for $150.
I can only imagine how much one for cello might be specially made...

Do you know of someone I can contact for such a thing special ordered?
Jack Havivi

Michael Darnton · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:44 am Post subject:

My first violin one was made with sheet aluminum and a bandsaw. You can saw aluminum easily on a bandsaw, but getting the blade in the center is a trick, so mine is made of two thicknesses, glued together, with the access slots in different places. You could do it in one thickness if you used a coping saw for the inside.

Andres Sender · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject:

I did a run of violin-sized ones about two years ago. Since then I’ve only had one inquiry for another, otherwise I’d have made another batch by now. Someone’s asking $150 for one?? Wow I was charging wayyy too little. Wink

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Jack H. · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:41 am Post subject:

thanks, I am familiar with mister hart.
I will contact him.
Just ordered some clamps from him through a colleague, was tough getting through to him though.
For a while we thought he closed shop.

thanks for the reminder!
J

WNitkin · Junior Member Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 15

These frames are available from Howard Core but are $150.00. If you find a cheaper source I would like to learn about it. I tried contacting Brian Hart about making a frame for the body of a violin but never heard back from him. http://www.howardcore.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=GW481956

Andres Sender · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject:

Mine were not so pretty, but thanks to design input from Michael Darnton, they were effective on a wider variety of violin shapes and sizes. Smile

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WNitkin · Junior Member Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 15

I am looking for a frame that can be used on the violin body. It would have to be notched to fit around the neck. Have you considered making these?

Andres Sender · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject:

I haven't run into a need for such a thing. What's it for?

Michael Darnton · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:01 am Post subject:

Aluminum saws with woodworking saws (and planes with wood planes, too), so if you need a notch, it's not hard to put one there, yourself.

WNitkin · Junior Member Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 15

I have not found any commercial source for a “body frame”. It would be used to prevent distortion in a body as it is being worked on. Old bodies have a tendency to twist as one is working on seams, center seam, rib repair or replacement. I try to engage a flat surface to the top of the body to prevent this but I think a frame would work better to keep the top of the ribs and blocks aligned and give good access to the interior. I am not to keen on trying to cut up my Gewa frame as I want to continue to use it for tops and it looks like a work of art. I would like to find another top frame and cut it out to receive the neck and use it on bodies. If you make more please let me know.