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jethro Member
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:56 am Post subject: anyone tried "african rooibos" red tea as stain ? |
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Found this tea in store-never noticed it before. It is red and I am trying to get a red-brown outcome. I have used strong (4 bags/ half cup) red rose brand black pekoe tea with good results. (this I drink !)
The red tea has a kind of cinimon taste!
Tim |
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PeterG Junior Member
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Fredericton, N.B.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I had a cup of that not too long ago. I don't know what kind of stain it would make but must say I didn't care for the taste all that much. I use King Cole orange pekoe and I have used Red Rose also for stain. Not much difference that I can see, but both good drinks. A lot faster than sun tanning the wood, especially with our maritime winters. |
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kubasa Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 212
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Might be a dumb question but how do y'all apply the tea? Do you use a spray bottle and spray it on lightly or just brush it on? How many coats do you use? Also, do you end up having to re-scrape the wood to smooth it due to grain raising? Sorry for all the questions. I've never "tanned" my wood before finishing but I'm thinking about trying it on the next one.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions! |
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Chet Bishop Super Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 678 Location: Forest Grove, Oregon
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of people raise the grain on purpose. The corduroy effect is liked by some. I have done this on several instruments, and I like it. But not everyone does. |
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jethro Member
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: tea- |
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Kubasa:
On number one I just painted on several wet coats to the bare wood before any ground or sealing. A few days later I did a coat or two of
dilute shellack as I remember and then steel wooled. But BEWARE ! --
don't steel wool unsealed wood if you are planning on using tea- I found
out the hard way- in bare wood the steel wires jab down into the pores ofthe wood and break off like splinters. They are about invisible untill you
apply the tea which reacts with the invisible splinter to generate a large
BLACK spot at each hidden splinter. It looks like you let sharpie ink bleed
out on the wood ! I had to rescrape and still I couldn't get it all 100%-
and I couldn't use the tea on that one - which resulted in a beautiful but
too blonde instrument ! (dumb blonde ! )
Tim |
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kubasa Member
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies and thanks for the tip on steel wool, Jethro. I avoid sandpaper generally but I do have a tendency to use steel wool every now and then so that information will be useful. I really want to try some tea on my next instrument so I appreciate the remarks. |
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MANFIO Super Member
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Barry Dudley Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have meant to ask this question before but do you apply the tea to the raw wood and then your ground? |
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Dave Chandler Super Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Mt Mitchell in North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: Tea |
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I followed Manfio's suggestion, with my own variation, and used about 5 teabags in about a half cup of boiling water, let it steep some time, pressed the bags out, and applied it to back and sides of a violin I'm just fitting up now. It brought out grain features that were invisible before. I wiped it on with a paper towel, twice, not a real soaking. It did raise the grain, so I put a thin very diluted amber shellac coating (1# cut) to stabilize the grain, and then lightly scraped it down. Looks real nice for what was pretty plain wood. What kind of tea? It was a mix of teabags, I think an orange pekoe, a couple English Breakfast, and an Irish something. Whatever the wife wouldn't miss. _________________ Dave in the Blue Ridge
Southern Violin Association
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M Mibeck Junior Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: anyone tried "african rooibos" red tea as stai |
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jethro wrote: | Found this tea in store-never noticed it before. It is red and I am trying to get a red-brown outcome. I have used strong (4 bags/ half cup) red rose brand black pekoe tea with good results. (this I drink !)
The red tea has a kind of cinimon taste!
Tim |
Tried all manner of herbal teas.
Tea does work as a colorant. I find that teas apply an even
color and are more predictable than watercolors.
However red is such a complicated color
that i doubt tea alone will get you to red.
most of the tea browns have a greenish tint to them and this green tint dissappears with the red tones of a varnish.
The reddest tea on the market is a Habiscus tea
although the tea is red
the stain it leaves is pink (like salmon pink).
Red is a fascinating as a color. I dont think tea will get you to red.
Miles |
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Geemac Member
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 93 Location: Spruce Grove
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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A thin coat or 2 of orange shellac will also give nice color. _________________ GeeMac |
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Dave Chandler Super Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Mt Mitchell in North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: stains |
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My approach is to bring out the contrast in the wood, and not so concerned about color until the color varnish stage.
I've taken to using very diluted clear shellac with a small amount of water based walnut stain mixed in. Doesn't raise the grain so much. You might try that on a scrap piece. You can experiment with mahogany for more red. The walnut stain I'm using is by Tru-oil for gunstocks, got it in the sporting goods store.
I've been adding a coat of orange varnish before my final colors to get a reddish undertone, which Geemac suggests. _________________ Dave in the Blue Ridge
Southern Violin Association
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