Violin Forum/Message Board

[Zaiphon]

I've been looking to buy a real violin, but I want one that will sound good with the right strings. I've looked at ebay's Yurea Violins and they look decent... but I wonder has anyone tried one? Are they professional?

Anyone ever try one and what was your experience?

[techfiddle]

How about a link to one so we can look at it?
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[Zaiphon]

Wasn't sure if it was allowed here

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180359686592&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=180394652299&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DSI%252BISS%252BUCI%26otn%3D4

[techfiddle]

Well, the whole thread may or may not be removed, depending on who, if anyone, complains. What you have there is a "violin-shaped object" which will never sound good and cannot be made to sound good.

For $200 and free shipping, you're getting the outfit, a tuner, TWO bows, and some other things that are misrepresented. Those are NOT high quality strings or high quality rosin. I have no idea what a shoulder strap would be used for, but that's entirely useless. The shoulder rest is junk. The tuner is junk, too, I would imagine. The violin is a totally unknown brand and so is the seller. It's absurd to call this instrument "professional."

This sort of thing is presented to the gullible and un-knowledgeable public, who don't know any better and want something for nothing. It is not even good as a "starter" instrument; it has no trade-in value and would be better with flowers placed in it, as a wall decoration.

See, instead:

http://beststudentviolins.com/violins.html#SV175
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[Zaiphon]

Oh I see, thanks. Any tips or pointers on how to shop for a good violin? Or a site with good violins.. kinda new to this.

Thanks in advance your help is always appreciated


edited:

http://www.nantelmusique.qc.ca/catalog.aspx?cid=10&lang=en

How about these, this is a music shop near where I live.

[techfiddle]

The GEWA's are not as good as the SAGA SV-175.

I would be concerned about a site -- and it's management -- that can't distinguish a comma and a period.
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[Amalia]

A "good" violin can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people depending on what they can afford and what their needs and playing experience are. When I was a kid my dad bought me a shiney new violin that I thought was a "good" violin and I enjoyed it for years. mostly because I'd never played on anything better. Then, after I'd been married a few years my husband bought me a new violin one (an olde English one) costing about 4 times as much as the one I'd thought was so good. OH MY what a difference! That was over 20 years ago and since then I've owned and played on numerous violins worth many times more than that one and I can tell you that there is a huge range of quality when it comes to violins and as you become a better and better player you will hear and appreciate the better sounding violins more and more.

For beginners, I would not be too concerned about maxing out your budget. Get a handmade (rather than factory made) violin if possible, and newer is not always better. Find a reliable violinist to go with you and help you choose.

If you are a more advanced player, and/or are serious about continuing with the violin, save up and buy the best violin you can afford (and a good bow to go with it). It will be well worth it. Again, if you are not experienced or knowlegable about violins, try to find someone who is, that you can trust, and have them help you.

[techfiddle]

IMO, the best thing that anyone can do for themselves is learn how to use their own language. This is the basis of all thought and the underlying requirement for any kind of excellence, academic or professional.

For example, the past tense of "hear" is not "heared" but "heard." If you're going to say violins, plural (more than one), then you should not say "of a Yureau.."

Thus there are two glaring errors in your subject line:

"Anyone ever heared of a Yurea Violins on ebay?"

Notice our friend amezcua, who refuses to put a space after a comma and two spaces after a period. It's equivalent to picking your nose in public (i.e., annoying, unpleasant and distracting).

I don't care what anyone says; the cold fact of life is that language is an indication of how well read the person is and how intelligent they are. But it should not be surprising that the Bell Curve is accurate.
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[Amalia]

Perhaps you should go to an English Language message board and post there Connie.

[techfiddle]

Are you insinuating that language is not important to achieving excellence in music? I think they're very related concepts. See:

http://www.violins.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=887&start=15&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

and this *is* an English language board.
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[Shirley]

Aw, Connie - I think the prices in question were posted European style? If that is the comma/period confusion you were referring to? Perhaps "old fashioned," but still... Shirley

[techfiddle]